Tricki
a repository of mathematical know-how
Add article
Navigate
Tags
Search
Forums
Help
Top level
›
Different kinds of Tricki article
›
Front pages for different areas of mathematics
›
Analysis front page
›
Real analysis front page
›
I have a problem to solve in real analysis
›
I have a problem about open or closed sets
View
Edit
Revisions
To construct exotic sets, use limiting arguments
Title:
*
Area of mathematics:
*
A comma-separated list of areas of mathematics to which this article applies. Use ">" to tag in a subcategory. Example: Analysis > Harmonic analysis, Combinatorics
Keywords:
A comma-separated list of keywords associated with this article. Example: free group
Used in:
A comma-separated list of examples of where this technique is used. Example: Cauchy-Schwarz inequality
Parent articles:
Order
-1
0
1
-1
0
1
Body:
[QUICK DESCRIPTION] How can one build an uncountable set $S$ that is nowhere dense, or a large supply of dense open sets, or a bounded path of infinite length, or a set of Hausdorff dimension $1\frac 12$? In each case, the easiest approach is to build a sequence of sets $S_1,S_2,\dots$ and take its union or intersection. If the sets $S_n$ approximate the property you want, then the union or intersection may have it exactly. [PREREQUISITES] Basic set theory and real analysis, countability [EXAMPLE] A subset $X$ of $\R$ is ''dense in $[a,b]$'' if every subinterval of $[a,b]$ of positive length contains an element of $X$. By contrast, $X$ is ''nowhere dense'' if there is no interval $[a,b]$ of positive length such that $X$ is dense in $[a,b]$. It might seem that nowhere dense sets would have to be pretty small, but they can in fact be uncountable. How does one build an uncountable subset of $\R$? The obvious way is to make sure that it contains some interval of positive length, but that option is not available if we want our subset to be nowhere dense. Another approach is to bear in mind that a set $X$ will be uncountable if we can find an injection to $X$ from the set of all infinite $01$ sequences. So perhaps we can build our uncountable set $X$ by first building a set $W$, then finding two subsets $W_0$ and $W_1$ of $W$, then finding two subsets $W_{00}$ and $W_{01}$ of $W_0$ and two subsets $W_{10}$ and $W_{11}$ of $W_1$, and so on, and defining $X$ to be the intersection $\bigcap_{k=1}^\infty \bigcup_{\epsilon_1,\dots,\epsilon_k} W_{\epsilon_1\epsilon_2\dots\epsilon_k}$. If for every $01$ sequence $\epsilon_1,\epsilon_2,\dots$ we can make sure that the intersection $\bigcap_{k=1}^\infty W_{\epsilon_1\epsilon_2\dots\epsilon_k}$ is non-empty, then $X$ is uncountable. And this we can do if each $W_{\epsilon_1\epsilon_2\dots\epsilon_k}$ is non-empty, closed, and bounded. How do we ensure that $X$ is nowhere dense? For that matter, what sorts of sets should the $W_{\epsilon_1\epsilon_2\dots\epsilon_k}$ be? Since all we know so far is that it would be good if they were non-empty, closed and bounded, we may as well begin by trying the simplest such sets, namely closed intervals. Then at each stage of our construction we shall have closed intervals of the form $W_\epsilon$, inside each of which we have to find two subintervals $W_{\epsilon 0}$ and $W_{\epsilon 1}$. There are countably many stages to this process, so we can ensure that $X$ is nowhere dense by means of a [[just-do-it proofs|just-do-it proof]] as follows. Enumerate the open intervals with rational end-points as $(r_1,s_1),(r_2,s_2),\dots$ and simply ensure at the $k$th stage that $(r_k,s_k)$ is not a subset of $\bigcup_{\epsilon_1,\dots,\epsilon_k} W_{\epsilon_1\epsilon_2\dots\epsilon_k}$. This is easy to do. [GENERAL DISCUSSION] The usual solution to this problem would be to observe that the [[w:Cantor set]] is an example. And indeed, what we have done is exactly this, except that instead of removing the middle third at each stage we have removed intervals of unspecified lengths. [note article incomplete] More examples to follow. [/note]
This is a stub
A stub is an article that is not sufficiently complete to be interesting.
Notifications
File attachments
Changes made to the attachments are not permanent until you save this post. The first "listed" file will be included in RSS feeds.
Attach new file:
Images are larger than
640x480
will be resized. The maximum upload size is
1 MB
. Only files with the following extensions may be uploaded:
jpg jpeg gif png svg
.
Revision information
Log message:
An explanation of the additions or updates being made to help other authors understand your motivations.
Search this site:
Recent articles
View a list of all articles.
Littlewood-Paley heuristic for derivative
Geometric view of Hölder's inequality
Diagonal arguments
Finding an interval for rational numbers with a high denominator
Try to prove a stronger result
Use self-similarity to get a limit from an inferior or superior limit.
Prove a consequence first
Active forum topics
Plenty of LaTeX errors
Tutorial
A different kind of article?
Countable but impredicative
Tricki Papers
more
Recent comments
I don't think this statement
choice of the field
Incorrect Image
Article classification
Higher dimensional analogues
more